Our puppies are now 48 hours old and still alive. Concentrating on keeping them warm and nursing every 2 hours or so. So far so good but we know we are far from out danger yet. We take it one day at a time and pray. Lots of late night and early morning feedings going on here!
O Wise One got another doe today so that will give us two in the freezer! What a man : )
Walker Hunting Dog
Also I appreciate so much all the comments and condolences on the death of our dog Sadie and want to thank you all. I also need to clarify that in my original post I wrote that Sadie was bred by a coyote dog. I forget that everyone is not familiar with hunting in this area and the lingo. I do apologize! In the Midwest there are people (in my area especially) that have dogs specifically raised to hunt coon or coyote. The dog that bred Sadie was a breed known as a Walker (pictured above) and owned locally. These dogs are released in groups by their owner with radio tracking collars on with the specific intent to chase and kill coyotes. These dogs run the woods and private land hunting coyotes. Although I am not particularly fond of this practice dogs cannot read my posted property signs and no hunting signs therefore I cannot do anything about it. Coyotes are very heavy in our area and I am presuming they do help keep down the numbers otherwise I assume it would not be legal.
My husband prefers to set live traps and keep down the population on our own land that way. The dog that bred Sadie was not a coyote or coyote hybrid but rather a registered, collar wearing, coyote hunting animal. He just happened to come by our very isolated farm and get with Sadie who was kenneled for the night. He dug under the fence and bred her.
These hunters invest large amounts of money in these animals and the owner even went to the vet's office checking up on Sadie and has called several times checking on the pups. He has offered to pay the vet bill and even offered to take the pups. We declined. I remember reading in the local paper once where this same owner offered a $5,000.00 reward for information on who shot one of his dogs. I do not wish to vilify this man this is simply how he makes his living.
My husband and I do believe in hunting and my husband both hunts and traps our land. He collects pelts from the animals he traps and sells them. Some years he may make a few hundred dollars on the pelts and some years he makes practically nothing.
We simply do not agree with the use of dogs to kill other animals as a general rule. However we do know that many things are hunted with dogs at many locations throughout our country including wild hogs, raccoon, rabbit, coyote and fox.
That being said I simply wanted to clarify that these pups are not coyote dogs or hybrids. I simply did not make the situation understood very well. I am so sorry !
Thanks again for all the prayers and your kind words of condolence.
Blessings from The Holler
The Canned Quilter
Oh you have nothing to apologize for ! We all call things by different names depending on where we live and what the word is we use to describe them ! These hunting breeds of dogs have been around for centuries like the hounds you see in the British paintings with the Hunter horses, riders and dogs . There are other breeds of dog that they use in the fields of sheep to protect the sheep from coyotes . I do hope these little ones do well , it is a long tiring process looking after these little ones in the first crucial hours of their life . I have done it on our hobby farm as a youngster with our animals . I pray for you all to get through this !
ReplyDeleteWe will keep praying for the puppies in hopes they will live a wonderful life like Sadie.
ReplyDeleteOh thanks for clarifying that. I was afraid the puppies wouldn't be nice dogs if they were half coyote.
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of hunting dogs in our neck of the woods. Blue ticks around here.
I feel so sorry for you guys losing your dog. we have a black lab that we just adore.
Good luck with the young-ins.
So glad you clarified! I looked at those puppies and thought they sure don't look half coyote (as if I'd know what half coyote looks like)! I'm so sorry for your loss, too. Poor girl.
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ReplyDeleteI thought it was a coyote, haha! Thanks for the clarification, CQ. :o)
I certainly hope the pups make it, its a big job keeping pups fed and warm, my father was a fur trapper and his before him, we ate what we grew and the forest provided our food, its a noble way of life.
ReplyDeleteYep, me too! Thought they might not be very friendly! Thanks for the clarification! :o)
ReplyDeleteThanks for that clarification. I was not aware of this practice. Those dogs look like they have some saluki in them or something. It makes me wonder though if they run loose to kill coyotes why don't they neuter the hunting males? It has been my experience once a dog gets the taste of an animal they will continue to kill it (groundhog, pigs etc) and neutering makes no difference. Will they not roam as far? There must be a reason.
ReplyDeleteI have absolutely no idea why they do not neuter the males. I know that when I neutered my little male scottie he lost most of his desire to wander off.
Deleteso glad those pups are still with you and thank-you for clarifying their papa's breed. In NY a coydog is half coyote and they are larger and more vigorous than the average coyote so having them in coyote packs is a problem aside from what the coyote packs themselves present. We also have problems with coyotes, not us personally since the horses and donkey discourage them from coming near our farm, but farms with sheep and baby goats take a beating. We also had an ignorant neighbor who hunted with his dogs and lost each and everyone , they would run off. Now you'd think he'd stop getting them but he continues. One Sunday we found one of his soaking wet, shivering, pitiful in our wood shed. we brought her in and warmed her up. We thought it would be his but since she had a rabies collar on with the vet name we planned to wait and call the vet in the morning. Well, he came by, we weren't home, he peered in our windows and came back later that evening to accuse us of stealing his dog. Of course we reminded him of the leash laws in NY, and then told him less politely that we would not be as kind in the future if we found he had trespassed on our farm again. We keep it posted, allowing friends only to hunt and trap (right now a friend has traps out for muskrats). He has had the nerve to show up a few times now asking if we have found a dog of his. Last time he called to me from our back 40 asking and I shouted back that if he did not get off our pasture I would be calling the sheriff. Ignorant folks have no business having dogs and then sharing their ignorance with the rest of us. Even when you try to be neighborly they just don't get it and make trouble. He hasn't been around since I shouted him off. That was a first for me, that sortuv thing is usually hubby's job and he does it well when needed. good luck with the babies. if they make it they will be fine dogs for sure.
ReplyDeleteSeems we all have THAT neighbor somewhere! City or country there is no difference. In the country they are just a little urther away and therefore a little easier to dodge!!! We saw very few coyotes in the area surrounding our home as long as we had Sadie. They were back in the woods but tended to not venture into the yard/barnyard with Sadie loose. Now that she is gone I am sure they will be back to try to get into our chicken yards and goat pens. This is why we shut up ALL our animals at night. Chickens, goats, pigs and small dogs. We have even had coyote dogs break into our rabbit pens and destroy the pen and kill rabbits. Life in the country is not always as idyllic as people think : )My favorite is city people who move into the country and buy a postage stamp size piece of land and then let their dogs terrorize the community because they moved to the country for their dogs to be free : ((((
Deleteand even if your neighbor neutered them, hounds will follow their nose. we had one, a neutered bassett. he died and we will not get another hound since it takes a few years to get them to learn to stay on the farm when they are off lead. a hound will follow his nose , it's what they do, fixed or not. your mix will be fun though, some hound with some good ole lab, should make a nice hunting dog that stays home!
ReplyDeleteThis leads me to ask if the Walker Hunting Dog is a sight hound or a combo. Either way it seems neutering would help from impregnating the neighbors dogs.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea. Our concerns has always been that these dogs wonder the woods for days without eating or killing what they can? We have always been concerned of their impact on the pregnant doe deer that they chase, also the impact on wild turkey populations that are struggling right now with several years of very wet springs and low hatch numbers. What about the bob white and geese populations. Sadie was bred in the summer when fawns were on the ground. Do these hunting dogs simply become another man introduced predator and maybe a more dangerous one. Do I want this dog in my yard with my grandchildren out there playing? Lots of questions with very few answers. It would take someone more familiar with this sport to answer these questions than I am. You would think that there would be some sort of limit on the times that these dogs could be allowed to run free.
DeleteThanks for clarifying that - I wondered how they would turn out if they were part coyote. We have coyote in our area as well & we aren't that rural here in nw Arkansas. From what I can tell though, the coyote don't cause much if any problems. We have more trouble with foxes. they are everywhere & always in the chicken houses. My neighbor raises chickens for eggs & has a very hard time keeping them safe from foxes.
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